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I Can Relate :
BS Questions for WS - Part 16

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foreverlabeled ( member #52070) posted at 5:46 PM on Tuesday, June 30th, 2026

I get why my answer feels unsatisfying. From the outside, it looks like someone must have been getting something meaningful out of the lie, otherwise why do it? And yes, there were moments that felt good in the moment. The ego strokes, the validation, the intensity. But those weren’t signs of happiness. They were hits, not fulfillment. They were reactions, not connection.

Survival from what?

The threat wasn’t external. It wasn’t my partner. It wasn’t consequences. It was my own internal world. I didn’t have the skills to regulate shame, fear, conflict, or discomfort. I didn’t have the ability to sit with myself honestly. So the "survival" was from facing who I actually was. The mask wasn’t protecting me from my partner. It was protecting me from myself.

That’s why compartmentalization feels so alien from the outside. You’re imagining someone consciously turning off their brain to enjoy the lie. But the truth is simpler and more disturbing, you don’t think about it because you don’t have the internal architecture to tolerate thinking about it. It’s not a calculated detachment. It’s an underdeveloped one.

WW - dday 02/29/16

Your journey is not the same as mine, and my journey is not the same as yours, but if we meet on a certain path, may we encourage each other.

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hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 11:51 PM on Tuesday, June 30th, 2026

It’s not a calculated detachment. It’s an underdeveloped one.

Yes!

And yes on not ever letting yourself be seen and therefore all the love landing on the mask.

I just needed to chime in because I have a hard time articulating things this boiled down. I can describe it with a lot of works but you get to the heart of it.

I don’t think my issue was completely not letting myself be vulnerable, some of mine was not knowing who I am or what I want and therefore hiding and trying to be more interesting. I realize that’s vulnerability but I do think if I felt more developed or secure in who I was vulnerability would not have been so hard.

Great posts.

WS and BS - Reconciled

Mine 2017
His 2020

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LonelyGuilty ( new member #87155) posted at 10:39 AM on Thursday, July 2nd, 2026

AnxiousAvoidant


I wasn’t having exactly an exit affair, but before and during the A, I wasn’t much invested (emotionally) in the M anymore (and not because of the AP). When I married, I thought it would be forever, but in that period I wasn’t sure anymore and I felt "done putting any effort".

Like your WS, I also thought my BS wouldn’t care much if I had something going on - when I asked him to open the relationship, I was shocked that he was so adverse to it. I thought he’d be fine with it, or at worse it would be just a "no", but no drama / emotions.

Anyway, despite all of this, I always, always, thought my husband was the best as a man. It’s just I didn’t feel him invested in me / I felt very lonely, hence I sort of "checked-out".

So it was never about him being the "second best". I always said he was a great person, dad, intelligent etc.. when I detached from him, it was more about how I was feeling in M and around him, than him as a person.

I don’t know if this helps!

[This message edited by LonelyGuilty at 10:40 AM, Thursday, July 2nd]

WW

DDay Oct 25 - Trickle truth until beginning of April 26Final DDay (all out) 14 Apr 26

"Today even dreams land, and fold their wings, because it’s not the time to fly"

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Pippin ( member #66219) posted at 3:17 PM on Friday, July 3rd, 2026

100% agree with foreverlabeled. Thank you for writing that out, it is so incredibly helpful, even years later, to find the words to describe my experience. FL, I know what brought you back here was unpleasant and uncomfortable and I hope you are feeling more settled and resolved - but there are wonderful things happening from your participation!

Him: Shadowfax1

Reconciled for 6 years

Dona nobis pacem

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Flatlined ( member #27637) posted at 8:50 PM on Friday, July 3rd, 2026

GotTheMorbs

Thanks for taking the time to share. Insightful for me.

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Me BW Him FWH [Dr.NewMan]Married 35 y/4 children DDay #1 7/20/09 DDay #2 7/28/09 (2 As,both with *PSEUDO*friends)

Reconciled Ten years out, surviving & thriving.

6-2026:

Now almost 17 years out. Back Again.😣 H had 10 month EA with coworker

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foreverlabeled ( member #52070) posted at 12:39 AM on Saturday, July 4th, 2026

FL, I know what brought you back here was unpleasant and uncomfortable and I hope you are feeling more settled and resolved - but there are wonderful things happening from your participation!

hiya Pip! Thank you for your kind words. Much improved and getting better.

Truly grateful to be helpful 🙏🏻

WW - dday 02/29/16

Your journey is not the same as mine, and my journey is not the same as yours, but if we meet on a certain path, may we encourage each other.

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GotTheMorbs ( member #86894) posted at 3:17 AM on Saturday, July 4th, 2026

I'm glad it was useful! anytime.

I'm not arguing... I'm calibrating

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Trumansworld ( member #84431) posted at 3:51 PM on Thursday, July 9th, 2026

WS only, or BS with question(s) for WSes.

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BW 65
WH 67
M 1981
PA 1982
DD 2023

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BackfromtheStorm ( member #86900) posted at 9:56 AM on Thursday, July 16th, 2026

What was the thing that tipped the scale when you started to check in more with your BS?

Do you have some memory or measure of what was happening inside you when you moved from avoidance and shame for your betrayal, into actually coming around and initiating "those talks" with your partner without them being the ones who have to bring it up first?

How did it feel? Was it timidly at first and gradually easier? Was it forced and unnatural?

What did you feel after? What was the impact on your BS?
Does it get easier or is something that makes you want to get off your chest and escape from asap?

[This message edited by BackfromtheStorm at 9:58 AM, Thursday, July 16th]

You are welcome to send me a PM if you think I can help you. I respond when I can.

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LonelyGuilty ( new member #87155) posted at 10:15 AM on Thursday, July 16th, 2026

Hi BtfS,

For me it was literally this community.
I read somewhere here the importance of "checking in" or raising the matter first, so that it wasn’t always on the BS.

I wanted (and want) to fix things and reconcile so I started doing the same (and I tried to do everything I was reading on here that was helpful for recovering)

It didn’t come natural at all (I could spend many words on why, also in relation to upbringing, not just shame). I was "forcing" myself at first, like following a script. It became more natural as I kept doing it.

I guess it felt like going out from a "comfort zone" into a "war zone".

Other things were more difficult though (this to say that even if I get something right, there would be something else where I am / was failing - e.g. I kept trickle truthing)

Unfortunately, I can’t talk for my BS.

WW

DDay Oct 25 - Trickle truth until beginning of April 26Final DDay (all out) 14 Apr 26

"Today even dreams land, and fold their wings, because it’s not the time to fly"

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foreverlabeled ( member #52070) posted at 11:34 AM on Thursday, July 16th, 2026

It was terrifying and completely unnatural in the beginning. The idea of bringing it up myself felt wrong. I kept thinking that mentioning it would only make things worse or drag him back into pain he was wrestling with. But I quickly learned he was already thinking about it constantly. Day and night. My silence wasn't going to protect him.

There was a moment that tipped things for me. Full disclosure. Once everything was out in the open, I found a kind of courage I didn’t have before. Facing it head on felt less awful and also freeing. I remember thinking nothing could be worse than hiding, so I might as well step out of the shadows.

How I felt afterward depended on the conversation. I never regretted checking in, but sometimes he got angry or sad, and seeing the pain I caused was incredibly hard. Those moments were heavy. Other times, it brought us closer or gave him a little relief. It wasn’t linear. It wasn’t tidy.

Over time, it did get easier. Not because the topic became comfortable, but because avoiding it felt worse. Checking in became something I did because it mattered to him, and because it was part of showing up instead of disappearing.

Unfortunately, there came a time where he didn't want to talk about it anymore, and rugsweeping became easier and easier for him. I then learned not talking doesn’t make it disappear. It just changes the shape of the damage.

WW - dday 02/29/16

Your journey is not the same as mine, and my journey is not the same as yours, but if we meet on a certain path, may we encourage each other.

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Pippin ( member #66219) posted at 2:30 PM on Thursday, July 16th, 2026

What was the thing that tipped the scale when you started to check in more with your BS?

There was a point where I understood that the truth was critical to my wellbeing, and I began to cling to it. It was fundamentally a selfish decision born of desperation - I am not a suicidal or depressive person in general, but I didn't want to continue in the life I had. I didn't want to wake up in the morning, the days dragged on, and I had no hope nor even desire for anything, and I couldn't find another way out. A friend on SI wrote about truth in a way that gave me hope. At first, I was focused on myself - the truth of how to came to be in the place in life where I found myself - and then it expanded to truths of all sorts, including the truth of my husband's experience and what he needed. I started checking in very frequently, of course with pauses to process and regroup. There were times that I wanted to talk about it more than he did. The times I did not want to talk to him about it were because I thought he was stuck on a wrong path, and then I got a marriage counselor to help us, not because I didn't want to talk, but because the talking was not helping.

Do you have some memory or measure of what was happening inside you when you moved from avoidance and shame for your betrayal, into actually coming around and initiating "those talks" with your partner without them being the ones who have to bring it up first?


I have a specific memory. A few months after I came completely clean, I found my husband's wedding ring on a desk where he left it while he was working out (there was nothing intended symbolically about him taking it off, he did it to avoid hurting his fingers while working out with weights). The cat looked like he was going to bat the ring off of the desk, so I took it and put it on the wristband of my watch, which is what I do with my rings when I take them off to work out, and then I forgot about it. A few hours later, my husband approached me, full of negative emotion, and asked if I did something with his ring. I reflexively said, "the cat knocked it off the desk so I was looking after it." Then I felt like shit for several hours. If I couldn't be truthful about something so small, so insignificant as to whether the cat looked like he was going to bat it off the desk or did bat it off the desk, how could I be trusted with important things? I knew (thought I knew) that he was at the end of his rope, that one more mistake and I was doomed (this was, in part, from the voracious SI reading I was doing at the time). I confessed, expecting the worst. He was incredibly kind and compassionate. He said that he knew the emotional environment I grew up in (we have known each other since we were very young) and which still exists in my FOO, that lying was a reflex to protect myself, and that it would take a while to undo those patterns. The reversal of how I expected him to respond, to how he actually responded, was incredibly strengthening. I felt very safe with him.

How did it feel? Was it timidly at first and gradually easier? Was it forced and unnatural? What did you feel after? What was the impact on your BS? Does it get easier or is something that makes you want to get off your chest and escape from asap?


There were so many different kinds of conversations, ones where he realized something he needed to change, where I realized something was so much worse than I had thought. I often felt both terrible and hopeful. What became easier was the belief (based on an ever increasing accumulation of evidence) that the other side was good, not always comfortable, not always easy, often gut wrenching, but always better. Sometimes the better took a while to arrive but I learned to tolerate the discomfort and be patient.

Him: Shadowfax1

Reconciled for 6 years

Dona nobis pacem

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